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Ranking the Avengers Characters

Ranking the Avengers Characters
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It’s all Marvel this week as we rank the Top 20 Avengers with special guest, Jerry McMullen of the Worst Comic Podcast EVER!

Before we dive into the ranking, we give our spoiler-free quick take on Kingsman: The Golden Circle which we will be reviewing in full next week.

Then, it’s back to Marvel for our Avengers ranking. Now, we take into consideration several mediums: comic books, TV shows, cartoons, toys, and the MCU films. That means mutants and web-slingers are eligible for the list!

So check out our list and then let us know what you think in the comments or @HeroesPodcast on social media!

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Screen Heroes Podcast Credits

Hosts
Derreck Mayer
Rachel Stewart
Ryan Couture

Special Guests
Jerry McMullen

Executive Producer
Derreck Mayer

Editor
Derreck Mayer

Music
Flying Killer Robots

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Ranking the Avengers Characters

Costume Couture: Men of Marvel

Marvel has dozens of male superheroes. We know several from the major Marvel movies like Iron Man, Deadpool, and Wolverine, but there’s plenty more. This week, we take a look at our favorite and least favorite costumes from the Men of Marvel. We’ll talk comic books and movies, so join us and let us know your favorite looks!

Also, don’t miss our Cosplayer of the Week, Yensid Cosplays who can be found on Facebook at Yensid Cosplays and Twitter @cruzingquinn.

Catch Rae are her new handle SirynRae and Ian at Haus of Turner Cosplay!

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Costume Couture: Men of Marvel

Spider-Man: Homecoming Review

Spider-Man has yet another new solo film and we’re here to tell you all about it and where it lands in the sea of MCU movies. Before we dive into our friendly neighbor Spider-Man discussion, we talk news including the casting of Squirrel Girl in the MCU, the first Inhumans trailer, plus DC’s animated universe enters the realm of Elseworld for the first time with Gotham by Gaslight.

Then it’s off to our spoiler-free thoughts on Spider-Man: Homecoming, followed by our severely spoiler-filled thoughts, finishing up the night with our letter grade for the MCU’s 16th movie.

Also, go to Screen-Heroes.com right now to subscribe to us on iTunes and drop us a review. If you do, we’ll be sure to give you a shout-out in a future episode!

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Screen Heroes Podcast Credits

Hosts
Derreck Mayer
Rachel Stewart
Ryan Couture

Executive Producer
Derreck Mayer

Editor
Derreck Mayer

Music
Flying Killer Robots

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Spider-Man: Homecoming Review

GH20: Nintendo Dominating E3 2017

E3 is underway and the big presentations are done. We talk about how wrong or right our predictions were from last week, plus a detailed discussion on how the major players are doing, what games we are most excited for, and what has disappointed us the most so far.

We dive into Microsoft first with talk of the Xbox One X and all the teraflops you could ever want.

Then it’s off to Sony to take a look at the delayed Spider-Man game, plus a few other nuggets.

Ubisoft also brought a lot to the show, so we talk a bit about their games.

Finally, we tackle Nintendo which shocked many a fan with the precise 25 minutes presentation and various announcements throughout E3.

This is our first time going live with Gamer Heroes, so please bear with us if we run into any technical issues.

Don’t forget to subscribe and review us on iTunes for a chance to win a free console game!

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E3 2017 Predictions Podcast Credits

Hosts
Jon Czerwinski
Derreck Mayer

Executive Producer
Derreck Mayer

Editor
Derreck Mayer

Music
Flying Killer Robots

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GH20: Nintendo Dominating E3 2017

Infinity War 67: Picking the Heroes

Transcribed from Screen Heroes, S1, E6 “Infinity War 67.”

When Marvel Studios announced the two-part Infinity War film, they said that there was an opportunity for 67 characters to be in the film. Since then, they have explained that it was an arbitrary number they just pulled out of thin air, but for fun, we wanted to pick out 67 Marvel characters that COULD make it into Infinity War.

The Veterans

The Newbies

The Guardians

The Defenders

The Back Up

The Agents

The Villains

The Unknown

The Asgardians

 

This episode was recorded before the release of Captain America: Civil War, Doctor Strange, and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2. Since then, more information regarding  Infinity War has been released as well as the movies leading up to it in the MCU.  Remember to take all of this with a grain of salt and the fun that it was supposed to provide.

To listen to the original episode, click here.

Infinity War 67: Picking the Heroes

Costume Couture: X-Men Trilogy

Costume Couture continues with a look at the entire original X-Men trilogy including Wolverine, Professor X, Mystique, Rogue, Storm, Nightcrawler, and even some more obscure characters. We talk about the black leather look compared to the original yellow and blue spandex, which characters it worked for and which ones it clearly did not. We also discuss some of our thoughts on the movies as a whole, did they do a good job in portraying their comic book characters? You’ll have to watch to find out!

In addition to talk costumes and designs, we also welcome our next Cosplayer of the Week, Jason Kiss (AKA The Snarky Gay Guy)! He’s known for his DC Comics’ Nightwing and genderbent Poison Ivy.

Check out our second episode below and comment with your thoughts!

Costume Couture is hosted by Rae of Super Sirens Cosplay and Ian of Haus of Turner Cosplay.

What did you think of our second episode? Subscribe on YouTube and comment on the video with your thoughts on the X-Men trilogy’s costumes and design concepts. We’d love to hear your thoughts.

Do you want a chance at being Cosplayer of the Week? Submit a form here!

Stay tuned for a new episode every week! Costume Couture will be analyzing all kinds of costumes and styles from Princess movies, sci-fi, fantasy, TV, and more! Plus, we’ll have even more cosplayers and prop builders featured!

Costume Couture: X-Men Trilogy

HPN Presents: Best Comic Book Movie of All Time

1st Annual HPN Madness!

2017 Best Comic Book Movie of All Time

Here’s the deal:

We asked you what the best comic book movies are of all time and you gave us these 32 to choose between. Now we’re relying on you to help us whittle it down to the nitty gritty.

Which is the all time best comic movie?

Every day, we’ll release one new match up and you’ll pick the winner. The movie with the most votes move on to the next round until we are down to the one and only best of the best.

You’ll be able to tune in every Tuesday to the Screen Heroes live broadcast at 9pm EST for the daily winners.

Keep up with your bracket, because the top three bracket winners will get awesome prize packs!*

You can find the starting bracket below.

bracket

 

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HPN Presents: Best Comic Book Movie of All Time

Marvel Phase 4 Film Pitch

Marvel is working its way through Phase 3 of its MCU adventures. We’ve seen the likes of Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, and many other Avengers and Guardians of the last near decade. With so much planned, we decided to pitch our own Marvel Phase 4 films that will take place after Infinity War, after Black Panther, and after Captain Marvel. All three of us come with our own Marvel Phase 4 film concepts and while some include familiar faces, others will include characters and stories you probably never heard of!

Enjoy our Marvel Phase 4 pitches and then be sure to head over to our Facebook page at let us know which you liked best!

Also, go to Screen-Heroes.com right now to subscribe to us on iTunes and drop us a review. If you do, we’ll be sure to give you a shout-out in a future episode!

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Marvel Phase 4 Pitch Podcast Credits

Hosts
Derreck Mayer
Rachel Stewart
Ryan Couture

Executive Producer
Derreck Mayer

Editor
Derreck Mayer

Music
Michael Wallace (Flying Killer Robots)

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Marvel Phase 4 Film Pitch

MCU Ranking – Where Does Civil War Land?

It’s become a running tradition to rank the films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe with us. We began with Avengers: Age of Ultron, continued with Ant-Man, and now we’re adding Captain America: Civil War to that list. We’ve had some people agree and disagree with us, but have stuck by our rankings. The release of Civil War has dominated the box office and have left fans mixed (you can check out our Civil War review here) and now the time has come for it to take its place among our ranked films.

If you missed our list prior to Civil War, here it is (you can see the full article here):

12. Iron Man 2
11. Incredible Hulk
10. Iron Man 3
9. Thor: The Dark World
8. Captain America: The First Avenger
7. Thor
6. Avengers: Age of Ultron
5. Ant-Man
4. Iron Man
3. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
2. Guardians of the Galaxy
1. Avengers

MCU Ranking – A Grid Daily Civil War

Captain America: Civil War Cap v Iron Man

This was an incredibly difficult choice that none of us really wanted to make. Talk to a Grid Daily contributor and their ranking will be different. The consensus,though? Captain America: Civil War nudges out everything to become the number 1 MCU film to date.  Before I go on, let me tell you just how split we are on this, but majority rules.

The movie captured the essence of the Civil War storyline in the comics: these superheroes are a powder keg, or as Hulk so eloquently put it, a time bomb.  You can’t have 10 people with extreme powers and personalities and emotions running that high without creating irresponsible and destructive results. The addition of Civil War to the MCU was an inevitability. These characters, by no means, should always get along. The truth in the film is where it succeeds.

Along with the story line, the movie did its side characters very well. Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, Vision, and Black Panther shined. Spider-Man and Ant-Man were incredible spectacles adding to the visual empowerment of the film. Falcon and War Machine were the perfect right hand men, portraying loyal friends to the men they cared about, never wavering their allegiances.

The difficulty of the film lies in Captain America and Iron Man. It’s difficult to see our favorite heroes be so blinded by their own perspectives. To quote a friend, “Captain America did the wrong thing for the right reason and Iron Man did the right thing for the wrong reason.” It’s painful to watch your heroes fall, which is where the Grid Daily group splits.Captain America: Civil War Banner

Overall ranking: 13 awesome fight scenes you didn’t see coming

So here is our updated list:

13. Iron Man 2
12. Incredible Hulk
11. Iron Man 3
10. Thor: The Dark World
9. Captain America: The First Avenger
8. Thor
7. Avengers: Age of Ultron
6. Ant-Man
5. Iron Man
4. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
3. Guardians of the Galaxy
2. The Avengers
1. Captain America: Civil War

How do you feel about our list? Where would you rank Civil War? Special thanks to our friend John Holloway from Worst Comic Podcast Ever for the awesome quote.

MCU Ranking – Where Does Civil War Land?

Captain America: Civil War Review

Marvel’s massive superhero showdown, Captain America: Civil War, hit theaters last weekend, so this week we sit down to talk about the story, characters, motivations, special effects, expectations, and the upcoming films including Doctor Strange and Infinity War. It’s important to note that this episode will contain tons of heavy spoilers for the film, so if you have not seen it yet, you might want to hold off until you do.

We also announce the winner of our Black Panther Wal-Mart Exclusive Funko POP Vinyl! Congratulations to Twitch username pugbite. We’ll be sure to have more giveaways in the future!

Civil War Review Podcast Credits

Hosts
Rachel Stewart
Ryan Couture

Special Guest
Robert McCullagh

Executive Producer
Derreck Mayer

Editor
Derreck Mayer

Music
Michael Wallace (Flying Killer Robots)

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Captain America: Civil War Review

Captain America: Civil War – A Spoiler Free Review

I have been looking forward to Captain America: Civil War since it was announced in 2014.  It stands as my favorite comic book story line in the last 20 years.  Needless to say, a lot was riding on this for me.  And overall, I wasn’t disappointed. The problem was I wasn’t over elated. I didn’t give it applause after and I didn’t leave that theater eager to see it again.  I was genuinely concerned, though, for the well-being of my favorite characters in comic book history.  Before I delve into it anymore, I’ll break down the good and the bad for you.

 

The Good

Every action sequence is incredibly on point.  It is obvious that each character has their own unique fighting style because each person gets their time to shine, more or less, which hasn’t always been the case of Marvel ensemble movies in the past. While I won’t go into any specific details, Winter Soldier, Ant-Man, and Scarlet Witch do not disappoint.

The women of Captain America: Civil War are not forgotten. It’s been a very long road of asking for more Black Widow to actually seeing her at her best, and this is it. She’s strong, educated, sassy, and a true friend to her fellow Avengers.  Wanda was also given an emotionally driven story arc, which was a huge part of the heart of the film (although, weirdly, no mention of her dead brother.)

That being said, the men don’t let down either. Sam Wilson’s increased character brought a definition of a true friend to the picture.  While Captain America is fighting for Bucky the entire time, he does miss out on some of the loyalty of Falcon.  He was honestly one of the highlights. The first appearance of Black Panther was, honestly, my favorite part of the film. He wasn’t treated as a throw away addition to the team, but given his own motivation as well as taking care of his origin story in the first hour so that the official Black Panther film can be a continuation of the character already.Captain America: Civil War Fiight

Lastly, the acknowledgment of the missing Hulk and Thor was superbly well done. It’s not a giant focus, but it’s just impressive how clever it was.

 

The Bad (yes, there was some bad; deal with it)

Sadly, Spider-Man was not my favorite.  It was painfully obvious he was a last minute addition that they actually had to squeeze into the lineups and action scenes.  He only talked to a few characters! I’m not saying the CGI to render him wasn’t impressive, but I really would have liked to see him more planned out and not such an afterthought. I know what you’re going to say, they do what they can with the licensing they can. And I’m aware of this, but his introduction to the world could have been done a bit better; I know it.  That being said, Tom Holland will be a great Spider-Man.

The overall tone of the film was just sad. There was some great jokes, and Marvel avoided the gritty tone that takes over so many films today, but it was a legitimately depressing film. I don’t know what I was expecting with Civil War, but it wasn’t this. I was anxious for death in every scene. I was surprised by some of the brutality by these characters.  I didn’t know where it was going, and I was truly scared. I had never felt like that in a Marvel film before.Captain America: Civil War Cap v Iron Man

Lastly, Iron Man and Captain America were easily mishandled. Choose Team Cap or Team Iron Man; it doesn’t matter. Both tread the line of good and selfish. Despite what others say, neither is a true hero. They get in their own way. They’re blinded by their own arguments that, to use a phrase used in the film, catastrophe easily ensues. Now that’s expected in a good war story, and flaws in everyone are important, but we’ve held these guys to such high standards before, I don’t see why we have to give them a pass now. I’m hoping that future films can redeem both Avengers for me.

I’ve seen a lot of people give this film the highest possible rating they can, and I find that difficult to accept because of what Marvel has done before. It’s important to still be critical of what is produced so we can continue to appreciate the amazing. We’ve been so spoiled by Marvel in the past that it’s easy to forget films like Iron Man 2. Civil War is good, still one of the better Marvel films. It is not, however, without flaws. That being said, I will go see it again and I am so looking forward to Dr. Strange.

Rating Saucers 4.5 out of 5

 

 

I give Captain America: Civil War 4 UFOs out of 5.

The film officially releases in North America on May 6th, 2016.

Captain America: Civil War – A Spoiler Free Review

Team Cap or Team Iron-Man

Recently I was privy to observe a very clever conversation arguing the true depth to what it means to be Team Cap (#TeamCap) or Team Iron Man (TeamIronMan).   Joining in was yours truly, King of The Grid Derreck, the best Black Panther cosplayer Brent Simpson, resident Ghostbuster Ryan, and our knowledgeable nerd Nikki. The conversation took place over multiple hours through a Facebook chat among friends. Some of the conversation has been edited to remove tangents, typos, colloquialisms. Overall, it was an exciting conversation to take part it and I’d like you to be apart of that too.

 

Captain America: Civil War Team Cap and Team Iron Man

Derreck: So why is everyone on Cap’s side? Seriously though, is everyone on Cap’s for personality reasons and now what they are actually doing/standing for?

Brent: I generally feel that Cap is doing the morally right thing. Even if it is unpopular.

Derreck: You don’t think people like this need to have some kind of checks and balances system? Especially after all that destruction?

Nikki: The world has gone to shit and these bamfs are saving most of us. Collateral damage is better than obliteration.

Derreck: I don’t think Iron Man’s side is: let’s all go home.

Ryan: Nope. How are you gonna check and balance a God and a big green radiation monster?

Derreck: He agrees with accountability.  Ryan, so it’s difficult, it shouldn’t be done? No accountability because Hulk? That’s some lame logic.

Ryan: The government doesn’t need their hand in everything. Look what happened when SHIELD was active. They were a government branch the Avengers were supposed to report to. They got infiltrated and caused all the Winter Soldier shit. Just because it’s the government doesn’t mean it’s any more of an infallible entity than the Avengers as a team.

Derreck: Hence the checks and balances. The same problems could arise within the Avengers. So the Hulkf takes out a city block and everyone should just look the other way because accountability “might” bring problems?

Rae: I don’t believe choosing to protect civilians means they have to become employees of any such government. What happens if the UN is corrupted?

Brent: I think internal checks and balances are different than tacit government sanction. Especially as there is no world governing body.

Nikki: The Avengers need to police themselves.

Ryan: Exactly.

Derreck: I don’t think we know that’s what’s happening. The trailer doesn’t say they are employees of the US military. As far as the UN goes, what if the Avengers are corrupted? And police themselves? That hasn’t worked so far, has it?

Rae: And,if you want to hold them accountable for their destruction you can literally rebuild.

Nikki: They’ve certainly made an effort.

Ryan: If the Avengers are corrupted, having the government involved won’t help anything.

Derreck: I like how the Avengers, a continuously growing group that includes criminals can police itself but the UN can’t.

Brent: If Hulk goes crazy, Hulkbuster and Thor can take him on. If the Security Council decides to clear the way for Hydra, what’s the plan.

Derreck: It’s just like our military today. They don’t have to listen to the President. If the UN becomes corrupt, then the Avengers do something about it. But to claim they can “police themselves” is just not realistic.

Nikki: This movie is coming out at a peak political time. Some people have lost faith in the government, others want to fix it, others think it’s fine as is. We’re just protecting our feelings onto the movie..

Brent: But the moment the Avengers take action, they are terrorists.

Derreck: Brent, I disagree. If our President gives an order that is not constitutional and the military does not obey, that is not a terrorist avct by the military.

Brent: Not obeying an order is not the same as taking an action.

Derreck: Under that logic, it doesn’t matter if the Accords** are signed or not because any corrupt military could just brand the Avengers as terrorists.

Rae: Non corrupt governments have. That’s why they’re there.

Derreck: It’s simple. There are two options: sign the Accords, show the world that you want to make it a better place and protect it. This has the chance to become a problem if the UN (or whatever agency) is taken over. Second option: Don’t sign and you’re automatically a terrorist because you see yourself as above the law and outside rule.

Rae: And that’s the WHOLE plot of the movie.

Derreck: If the UN becomes corrupt, the Avengers have literally the same options whether they’ve signed or not.

Brent: Pretty much.

Derreck: Hence, sign the damn Accords and IF the UN becomes corrupt, deal with it. It’s not like Hulk loses his powers or something if they sign.

Brent: A zero sum argument doesn’t help either argument though.

Derreck: Cap makes it personal and goes after Bucky, who is a terrorist. It’s not a zero sum. One has the possibility of ending badly, the other absolutely will.

Brent: I think it’s an absolute either way. Hydra is still out there and operating. Allowing them oversight of the Avengers means they will be pawns of Hydra. Remaining an independent peace keeping organization means the chance of that is zero.

Derreck: But that’s based on the claim that it is impossible for Hydra to infiltrate a member of the Avengers. That’s not a fair claim. Ant-man was a criminal and Scarlet Witch was a bad guy. Who’s to say Hydra can’t get involved? Add Bucky to the list as a terrorist, programmed or not.

Brent: But then we are back to self policing. If they sign and they are infiltrated, they can do nothing until sanctioned. Especially because Hydra controls the team. If they do not, they are capable of taking action against that individual.

Derreck: That’s just red tape. If Hulk wants to smash, he’ll smash. The Avengers need to be responsible for ensuring Hydra doesn’t take control, yes. But on the flip side, why should they get to dictate what classifies as acceptable destruction and loss of life? Because they have powers or suits?

Brent: I don’t follow the logic that they are able to classify anything. Independent organization doesn’t mean they aren’t required to answer for their actions or explain themselves.

Derreck: But who are they answering to at that point? Is this the whole point of the Accords, accountability? I feel like Iron Man’s whole point is that they should answer to some group. And right now, they don’t. They operate using his money and his technology but on US soil.

Brent: Answer to the government where the loss of life and destruction of property took place. We have international law. You don’t have to be a part of the UN to be tried for a crime or called into a tribunal.

Derreck: So, what the trailer leaves unanswered is, has that happened? Or have they been protected from all of that? It’s not like they can bring Bruce Banner to trial. Or Vision. If they have had to answer to the local governments, then it’s a different conversation because the Accords don’t do much at that point and the scene with the videos seem out of place. It’s a super similar question to what Superman has to answer to after the destruction of Metropolis but at least we know he ends up in court. Should Scarlet Witch be protected after she helped Ultron? And what about Bucky? Does he get a pass because he’s Cap’s old buddy?

Brent: He ends up in a congressional hearing, but it’s a fair point. Bucky is such a unique criminal case to me. You have his initial disappearance, which could be construed as kidnapping. Which makes his later actions justifiable as he was under duress, in addition to the psychological trauma he suffered in his conditioning process.

Rae: Should everyone in the MCU who has been tortured and brainwashed immediately demonized without rehabilitation?

Brent: I can’t answer to that point. There are a lot of issues with his case for a direct answer.

Derreck: I don’t disagree with that but what Cap does to get him is illegal. He is operating outside of the law. The Avengers don’t get to be the judges. I’m not demonizing anyone. I’m simply saying if the UN can be so easily corrupted, why can’t the Avengers when it’s actually happened to some of the members? I don’t fault Cap on a personal level but his actions are still illegal.

Brent: Which brings us back to moral vs. legal.

Derreck: Looking at just the existing MCU before Civil War: Hawkeye was brainwashed, Scarlet Witch helped Ultron, Ant-Man was a criminal, and Bucky was a terrorist. That’s not good odds. The issue isn’t about whether or not we understand Cap’s personal feelings, it’s about whether or not the Avengers should operate within international law. I understand Cap’s dilemma and I feel for him but that does not justify acting outside of the law. A law that was, at the time, not a covert Hydra corruption situation.

Brent: Which is very gray. Extradition and detainment varies by country.

Derreck: Agreed. It’s complicated which is exactly why Cap doesn’t get to act as Judge Dredd here without serious reprecussions. Even in the trailer, Cap says you can’t always save everyone. Maybe Bucky is one of those people the Avengers can’t save.

Brent: Which I’m sure he’s willing to face.

Derreck: Does it suck? Yes. Is it sad? Absolutely. But it doesn’t erase the rest of the world the Avengers have to operate in.

Brent: Can we just appreciate how much more nuanced this Civil War is?

Derreck: Oh, absolutely. This is definitely not a punch/smash/bad guy down movie.

Brent: As an independent organization, I think they will be called to ask for their actions. However, I can’t agree that they need to be directly responsible to one organization doesn’t cover everywhere. Strike responsible. Sub accountable. Cap’s “issue” is that he will look at this as a soldier. He will accomplish  his mission, then turn himself in for a court martial. He can explain himself the and accept whatever punishment is proper. As an outsider looking in, his character and morals mean that he will do what is good and right. Even if it isn’t legal. Guns pointed at civilians 24/7 was legal after all.

**In reference to the Sokovia Accords, the fictional documented contract that the Avengers are being asked to sign in the upcoming film.

So what did you think? Did any of this change your mind? Whose team are you on: Team Cap? Team Iron Man? Let us know!

Team Cap or Team Iron-Man