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Our DCEU: Shazam!

Our DCEU: Shazam!
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Our DCEU continues with our vision of a Shazam! movie. So far we’ve re-written Man of Steel and Batman v Superman. Then Our DCEU diverged from the real one with our Justice League Dark movie. This week, we continue the path we’ve created by introducing Shazam.

Plus, we talk about news with a heavy focus on the Netflix Marvel series cancellations of Iron Fist and Luke Cage along with what that might mean for Daredevil and the rest of the shows. We also talked about the delay of Wonder Woman 1984.

Are you enjoying Our DCEU? Where do you want to see our film universe go? Did you have different ideas for Shazam film? We want to know! Comment below or hit us up @HeroesPodcasts on Twitter or Facebook!

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Our DCEU: Shazam!

Our DCEU: Batman v Superman

We continue our DCEU Re-Write with the second installment of the dark cinematic universe, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice! We started things off with a re-write of Man of Steel, the film that kicked off the DCEU. If you missed our Man of Steel re-write, please check out episode 119. We also talk news including Aquaman’s first poster, Shazam Gate 2018, Batwoman, and more in this DC-centric episode!

What did you think of our Batman v Superman rewrite? Did we improve the film? What would you have done differently? We want to know!

Comment below or hit us up @HeroesPodcasts on Twitter or Facebook!

Go to Screen-Heroes.com right now to subscribe to us on iTunes and drop us a review. If you do, we’ll be sure to give you a shout-out in a future episode!

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Our DCEU: Batman v Superman

SH S1E15: Batman v Superman Analysis

The DCEU has officially started with the premiere of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. The film is bringing the cash along with complex opinions that range from a sub-30% from critics on Rotten Tomatoes to +70% by fans on the same site. People either love or hate this movie with little room for middle ground. With that in mind, we decided to sit down and discuss the main characters, plot points, and expectations for the film and upcoming DCEU movies including Suicide Squad and Wonder Woman. So there are lots of spoilers here! You’ve been warned. We also did a poster give away for our viewers who watched the live stream on Twitch as we recorded! We’re not sure what the next give away will be but keep up with us on Twitter and Facebook to find out and make sure to tune in live next week!

Listen to our thoughts and then let us know yours! What did you think of the movie? Are you excited for the future films? Who was your favorite character and who do you think would win in a showdown between DC’s Trinity? Comment below!

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Grid Talk: 06 – DCEU Rumors

This week, we sit down to talk about all of the rumors circling the various DCEU films. The DCEU, for those who don’t know, is the DC Comics Extended Universe which includes the upcoming films like Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice, Suicide Squad, Wonder Woman, and Justice League: Part 1 but also The CW shows Arrow, The Flash, and the upcoming Legends of Tomorrow. Various rumors are swirling around the big screen productions including who Lex Luthor actually is, what Zod is doing in the Dawn of Justice trailer, when Wonder Woman will take place, and what might happen with The Justice League Dark. We grab some of the biggest rumors and talk about how much we think the rubber hits the road going all the way up to Shazam and forward to the untitled Flash and Aquaman films.

After listening to our DCEU rumors, hit us up on Twitter @GridTalkTweets to discuss what you think of the DCEU so far and which rumors you think might go a different way.

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Superman: The Conservative Hero

Superman is actually a conservative hero when you look closely, just take a moment and look at the role he plays in the world, and I don’t mean he is standing up for the American way and all that, or even that he’s upholding the political right or anything. Simply that he’s maintaining the status quo. Our acceptance of him as the greatest superhero is what tells us a lot about ourselves, about our society.

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To start things off, let’s look at Superman in a typical situation. Lex Luthor devises some evil plan to rule the world. Superman must stop him. But what is interesting is not what he does to stop Luthor but what Superman doesn’t do in the down time. With all that power, Superman could do a lot of things to make the world a better place. He could feed the hungry, get rid of the world’s weapons of mass destruction, even solve wars before they start, to name a few. Super speed and super strength could do a lot of good. But he doesn’t, aside from side stories, his main mode of operation is stopping bad things from happening and not starting anything good. I know Superman may save an occasional kitten stuck in a tree but typical stories have him passively stopping a villain, not actively changing the world for the better. His character maintains the status quo.

 

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Admittedly in Superman’s earliest stories he does try to change the world for the better. Some of his earliest stories have him shutting down slumlords by clearing out dangerous tenements, going about fighting corruption and the like. A sorta hero for the poor. And even in the more recent film Superman IV: The Quest for Peace, he declares he is “ridding the world of nuclear weapons” as he effortlessly scoops up a bunch of nukes and chucks them into the sun. Easily solving the one of the greatest dangers of the Cold War while not even breaking a sweat.  But these instances are not Superman at his best, his most popular. Fans and the general public rejected The Quest for Peace, considering it one of the worst superhero films of all time. And scenes like these are painfully hard to swallow because it is so much out of character for him. It comes across as meddling perhaps. You could say that Kal-El has some non-interference pact with his dad or something but every time he takes down a villain he violates it. 

As for Superman’s earlier attempts in the comic books of making the world a better place, this is dropped for more entertaining things. Fans are not as interested in a “Superman hero of the downtrodden.” He has evolved in modern times. Instead, Superman is at his best when he is sitting around waiting for villains to come up with a plan. Superman doesn’t try to change the world for the better. His job is to stop villains like Lex Luthor, to keep things the way they are, to maintain the status quo.

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Is this meddling or changing the status quo

Although Superman is the greatest superhero of all time, many other heroes maintain the status quo. Heroes like Batman with his great wealth could spend all of that money spent on gadgets and instead sponsor a police force or something along those lines. Even Batman can’t be everywhere at once but the police could. Although Peter Parker is a broke college student he doesn’t try to improve the world either, he prevents evil from taking place, from changing the status quo. I know Spidey is just an underdog hero and does whatever he can but he still sits around waiting for villains to come up with plans, never going on the offensive. All fictional heroes are this way. Its a challenge to provide any character who tries to improve the world instead of just stopping the evil plans of villains. It’s human nature to look at heroism this way, heroes keep things the way they are. As it has been said before; a hero is defined by the villain, without the villain, he has no purpose.

 

Real Life Examples 
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Even real life examples of great people fall into this way of thinking. Of either being a Superman or a Lex Luthor. Great leaders like Martin Luther King and Gandhi were feared for the change they would bring but later being accepted. Society at large rejected their ideals ignoring the morality of it. They had to overcome alot of opposition to convince people. In retrospect, and with hindsight, these kind of leaders are celebrated, streets and holidays are named after them, but they are held up as heroes because we live in the world in which they envisioned and it’s easy to forget the opposition that they faced. In the time that they lived they were feared and hated for upsetting the status quo, often beaten down and arrested for doing what was right. Both Gandhi and King were assassinated after all, society at large took awhile to accept them as a Superman but they did eventually. People today often overlook just how unpopular they were, instead of realizing that they were considered to be Lex Luthors when they started their work of changing the world for the better. A lot of idealist with truly wonderful ideas fail to realize that they may become the next Luthors in the eyes of society simple because they sought to change the status quo. Morality depends on perspective.

A desire to change the world only ever lies with the villains, the counterpoint of the heroes. These are typically characters that are the mad scientist types. Although they’re evil and self-serving they do try to change the world. These Lex Luthor types are often intelligent visionary people much like real life social activists and scientists and this is where it gets interesting.

 

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I remember reading Carl Sagan lamenting why scientist in fiction were always portrayed as evil. In his book, Demon Haunted World, Sagan wonders why so many great ideas never come to fruition and scientist are characterized so badly; why there are so few positive scientists in fiction and why are they always portrayed as the “mad scientist” archetype, types like Luthor. Sagan goes on to wonder why scientist have such a hard time convincing people, despite compelling arguments and logical evidence. In many ways scientist are like civil rights activists, they often advocate for a better future. Scientist sometimes just need the benefit of hindsight to prove it to the world. The easy answer to Sagan’s question is that humanity is not logical but there is something more to it. 

It’s about what humanity views as the the hero and the villain. The hero is one who maintains the status quo and the villain is one who disrupts this. The civil rights activist, the mad scientist, the ones who scheme and plot must be out for their own self-interest, at least according to some. These are the ones who are the  Lex Luthors. Scientist just like civil rights activists, with their new radical ideas, are the Lex luthors, the villains.

Carl Sagan along with being a thinker and philosopher was primarily an astronomer. One of his greatest contributions to his field was the explanation of why Venus was so hot. It is far hotter than Mercury despite being further away from the sun. Simply put this was because of greenhouse gasses, like carbon dioxide, locking in heat like a blanket. And these were the same gases being put into the atmosphere here on Earth. Venus gives us hints about Earth’s possible future, strong logical evidence for climate change. This alarmed Sagan and other visionary people. People who wanted to change the status quo. To make the world a better place.

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Surface of Venus, shortly before this probe melted.

Despite compelling logical evidence of the greenhouse effect many people rejected it. Scientists like Sagan were, and still are vilified, for standing up for the obvious. They became the Lex Luthors. Conservative pundits who sought only to maintain the status quo are seen as the heroes, the Supermen, fighting hard to keep things the way they are.  But it wasn’t done on purpose, its human nature.

Reconsider

As humans we have an innate view of heroes and villains. We lionize and vilify not based on morality but instead of how open we are to change. Superman is just the greatest embodiment of this ideal, just an example. A product of what we want, shaped by our desires for the ever welcoming feel of the norm.  The conservative Superman. The liberal counterpoint being Lex Luthor, trying to change the status quo. I’m not saying we should reject this Superman ideal but instead be conscious of our biases, our tendency to keep things the way they are, to maintain the status quo, and vilify those who try to change it. We should always strive to see past our nature, to be better than that and use reasonable thinking, and keep an open mind. Avoid the knee jerk innate humane reaction to reject what is different, what is new. To try to be tolerant, why not try having a liberal hero, a liberal Superman. Or at the very least stop vilifying people who seek change, stop making them into Lex Luthor because they’re not.

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Superman: The Conservative Hero

Batman Vs Superman: Breaking Down the New Set Photos

Batman vs Superman: Dawn of Justice is less than a year away.  Little by little new information gets released to us.  The nerds are awaiting patiently. But we want more. We’re all on the edge of our seats for the next tidbit. The tension is palpable.

Well, we got more than our little geek hearts could handle.  Warner Bros. and Entertainment Weekly released these photos earlier.  And I’m going to break them down for you.

Batman vs Superman - Henry CavillLet’s start with my favorite one.  Just by the environment, we can tell it’s taking place in a Latino neighborhood on Day of the Dead.  Superman is striking a very classic pose, however his face is filled with concern.  The people are practically falling over themselves trying to touch him (I’d do it too, but probably for other reasons not related to the pictured situation.)  He’s clearly a god to them, to all of us.  Just one touch would change them.  Maybe it would be the proof they needed of the impossible.  Maybe it would fulfill an unbelievable desire to hope.  For whatever reason they want to touch him, he’s not resisting or fighting them off; he’s letting them do it.

Batman vs Superman - Bat SignalThis one is also pretty cool.  The beautiful blues that fill the scene perfectly set the mood.  Even without the bat signal shining, we would know that’s Gotham. Why? Because it’s always night time in Gotham, and rarely has clear skies.  Duh.  There Batman stands, in what appears to be his Superman-battle-ready-mechsuit.  But it doesn’t look like the bat signal was for him.  I think it’s an easy assumption that the light was meant for someone else, maybe the man the mechsuit was made to take down.  I will say that even though I’m on board with both the batsuits we’ve seen so far, I am not loving that bat logo.  It’s just not as imposing as ones of the past.  It doesn’t have that darkness and terror to it. What do you think?

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Oooh! I was right. I’d be totally okay if they kissed right now.  I can tell that’s not the mood, they just don’t have the ‘kiss me’ eyes, but still. I digress.  Stare down between the knight and the god!

Batman vs Superman - Affleck behind the scenesFinally a behind the scenes shot!  Of course it’s our Batman, Ben Affleck, and director, Zack Snyder, but look closer.  That vehicle behind them is absolutely destroyed!  This is the remains of a battle scene.  That’s not car wreck wrecked! That’s Zod and Kal duking it out in Metropolis wrecked!  And there’s an older, worn out Bruce Wayne (see you can tell because he’s not wearing the cowl).  He is sporting some graying temples that put Mr. Fantastic to shame.  We’ve never seen this Batman, or Bruce, before.  They keep saying that he’s going to be weary of the world and of Superman, but I’m still not sure if the audience will be fully prepared to the extent they’re planning on taking that story line.

Batman vs Superman - Bruce Wayne and Wonder WomanWhat a gorgeous shot of Gal and Ben.  There’s always an occasion for Mr. Wayne to get dashingly fancy, but why Wonder Woman?  How does she play into this?  Is she an unsuspecting bystander, just another victim of the Bruce Wayne charm?  Very doubtful.  Whatever kind of party this is, be it charity event or what have you, she is there for a purpose.  She could be just as suspicious of Superman as Bruce Wayne is.  She could be the link they need to quell their feud.  She could be there to get down with her bad self.  We don’t know! I do know, however, that she is giving Bruce the cold shoulder.  You go, girl.

Batman vs Superman - Entertainment Weekly coverAnd there they are!  Your Batman vs Superman stars!  And Wonder Woman is front and center! Believe it or not, that is both intentional and meaningful.  Even if her part in the film isn’t as large as one might hope, she will be important to this story and the people behind the movie know it.  Also, this is a huge merchandising jab at Marvel.  While the Avengers tend to forget about the ass-kicking Black Widow, DC is assuring you that Wonder Woman is just as necessary as the boys behind her.  What would the sacred Trinity be without her to hold them up?

Batman vs Superman - Lex LuthorAnd then there’s this. Why? Why? Can we have one Lex Luthor without a hair plot line?  They’ve done it various animated incarnations and it works just fine. Just…stop. Nope, nope, nope.

 

What do you think about the new images from Batman vs Superman? Any of them get you excited? Or disappointed?  Let us know in the comments!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Batman Vs Superman: Breaking Down the New Set Photos