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SH S2E25: Screen Heroes Awards

SH S2E25: Screen Heroes Awards
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Welcome to our 50th Episode of the Screen Heroes podcast! Thank you for all of your support over the last year. We’ve got something very special for you this week, the First Annual Screen Heroes Awards!

We nominated actors, characters, shows, and movies across 17 different categories and you helped us pick the winners by voting on Facebook, Twitter, our website, and even Instagram! Now, join us as we announce our Screen Heroes Awards winners in each category with the help of five special guests that include previous Screen Heroes guests and some new comers. We also give away a voter prize with each category! So listen in and see if you won!

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Derreck Mayer
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Allen Jones
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Derreck Mayer

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Derreck Mayer

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Michael Wallace (Flying Killer Robots)

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SH S2E25: Screen Heroes Awards

Screen Heroes Awards: First Annual

Welcome to the First Annual Screen Heroes Awards!

That’s right! We’re hosting our first awards show, celebrating the most fun in media this year.  And you get to be a part of it! We’ve been releasing new categories for you to vote on so we can choose the winners!

But that’s not all! Every time you’ve voted, you’ve actually been entering yourself in a Screen Heroes Awards Contest too! For every category, a lucky winner will be selected to receive a prize related to that category’s winner!

Prizes Include:

Comic books!
Charms!
Movie Posters!
Grid Daily Apparel!
FUNKO Pops!
And more…!

Have you missed the previous categories? Never fear! Listed below are the released categories with your chance to pick your winners in the comments!

Remember, you must pick from one of the picture nominees. We know not every film or actor was nominated but just like the Academy Awards, we had to narrow things down a bit.

First Annual Screen Heroes Awards Nominees

Best Female Superhero in a Film

Margot Robbie (Harley Quinn), Jennifer Lawrence (Mystique), Gal Gadot (Wonder Woman), Scarlet Johansson (Black Widow)

Best Film (Super)hero FemaleBest Male Superhero in a Film

Ryan Reynolds (Deadpool), Robert Downey Jr. (Iron Man), Henry Cavill (Superman), Chris Evans (Captain America), Will Smith (Deadshot), Ben Affleck (Batman)

Best Film (Super)Hero Male

Best Superhero TV Series

Arrow, The Flash, Supergirl, DC’s Legends of Tomorrow, Daredevil, Luke Cage

Best Super Hero Show

Best Sci-Fi TV Series

Orphan Black, Stranger Things, Wayward Pines, Mr. Robot, The X-Files

Best SciFi TV Show

Best Fantasy TV Series

Game of Thrones, Outlander, Galavant, Once Upon a Time, The Shannara Chronicles

Best Fantasy TV Show

Best Horror TV Series

Lucifer, Supernatural, American Horror Story, Penny Dreadful, The Walking Dead

Best Horror TV Show

Best TV Villain in a Superhero Series

Cameron Monaghan (Jerome Valeska\Joker),  Casper Crump (Vandal Savage), Teddy Sears (Jay Garrick), Neal McDonough (Damien Darhk), Erik LaRay Harvey (Diamondback), Mahershala Ali (Cottonmouth)

Best TV Villain

Best TV Supporting Character in a Superhero Series

Jon Bertnthal (Frank Castle), Rosario Dawson (Claire Temple), Wentworth Miller (Captain Cold), Carlos Valdes (Cisco Ramon), Simone Missick (Misty Knight)

Best TV Supporting Character

Best Female Superhero in a TV Series

Melissa Benoist (Supergirl), Caity Lotz (Sara Lance\White Canary), Chloe Bennet (Daisy Skye Johnson), Willa Holland (Thea Queen\Speedy), Elodie Yung (Elektra)

Best TV (Super)hero Female

Best Male Superhero in a TV Series

Charlie Cox (Matt Murdock\Daredevil), Mike Colter (Luke Cage), Grant Gustin (Barry Allen\Flash), Brandon Routh (Ray Palmer\The Atom), Stephen Amell (Oliver Queen\Green Arrow)

Best TV (Super)Hero Male

Best Villain in a Superhero Film

Viola Davis (Amanda Waller), Jesse Eisenberg (Lex Luthor Jr.), Oscar Isaac (Apocalypse), Ed Skrein (Ajax\Francis), Cara Delevingne (June Moone\Enchantress)

Best Film Villain

Best Supporting Character in a Superhero Film

Tom Holland (Peter Parker\Spider-Man), Chadwick Boseman (T’Challa\Black Panther), Brianna Hildebrand (Negasonic Teenage Warhead), Jay Hernandez (Diablo), Sophie Turner (Jean Grey)

Best Supporting Film Character

Best Superhero Film

Deadpool, Captain America: Civil War, X-Men: Apocalypse, Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, Suicide Sqaud

Best Comic Book Movie

Best Horror Film

The Purge: Election Year, 10 Cloverfield Lane, The VVitch, Pride Prejudice and Zombies, The Conjuring 2

Best Horror Film

Best Fantasy Film

BFG, Miss Peregrine’s Home for Peculiar Children, Warcraft, Pete’s Dragon, The Jungle Book

Best Fantasy Film

Best Science Fiction Film

Star Trek Beyond, Independence Day: Resurgence, Ghostbusters: Answer the Call, The 5th Wave

Best Sci-Fi FIlm

Best Animated Film

Pets, Zootopia, Kubo, Finding Dory, Kung Fu Panda 3

Best Animated Film

 

That’s it for now, but stay tuned for more news and don’t forget to join us live for the official awards ceremony! You can catch the Screen Heroes Awards live December 6th at 8:00 pm Central on twitch.tv\heroespodcasts!

Entries into the contest are limited to the number of categories released. Only one winner will be chosen per category. No repeat winners will be chosen.

Questions? Comments? Hit us on on Facebook or Twitter!

Screen Heroes Awards: First Annual

We’re Being Bad Fans

I feel something needs to be said. This past year has been incredibly cool when it comes to films. We’ve seen our favorite heroes go toe-to-toe, fist-to-fist in epic battles we only dreamed of as children. We’ve seen beloved franchises reinvented to reflect different audiences. We’ve seen the limits of CGI technology pushed with video game adaptions. We’ve seen C-list characters pulled to the forefront for our viewing pleasure. And yet, they each seem to get trash talked and panned before the opening weekend is even over. It’s time we’re called out: we are bad fans.

If you haven’t caught my drift I’m specifically speaking of the insanity that is the DC backlash (and subsequently the Ghostbusters hate and Warcraft ire.) And it is insanity. Don’t believe me? Here are some excerpts from reviews found online. You tell me if they’ve gone too far.

Harley Quinn’s character is the strongest proof that this movie, for all its rebellious posturing, is nothing but business as usual. Full review
A. O. Scott·The New York Times
On paper, this could have been the antidote to an increasingly codified strain of comic-book movies, but in the end, it’s just another high-attitude version of the same. Full review
Peter Debruge·Variety
As storytelling, Suicide Squad is the worst of the worst, but it’s no different in kind from the best of the best. This is all just high-priced junk.Full review
David Edelstein·Vulture
How, you might ask, is it possible to so thoroughly suck the joy out of a story that features a guy who can shoot flames out of his hands (Jay Hernandez, as Diablo)? Full review
Michael O’Sullivan·Washington Post

Giant. Eye roll. Seriously, my eyes can’t roll hard enough. What do I mean by this? We’re spoiled by great films, and so now, we expect EVERY film to produce greatness. Instead we should be focused on having fun and enjoying finally seeing our childhoods come to life. Now if I sound a little angry, it’s because I am. It’s disheartening to see what you love just completely berated over and over until everyone is in this cesspool of bitterness and elitism.  That’s not how I want my movies anymore.

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How can we better ourselves?

Well, I have a few ideas…

Remember where we come from 

Movies of the 80’s and 90’s ranged from glorious cinematic works (remember Ghostbusters?) and cheesy balls of crap (remember Ghostbusters 2?).  Big movie hits were immediately transformed into exploited franchises with board games, cereal, action figures, cartoons, drinks, etc. But we didn’t care! We loved having more and more content! It was a franchise utopia!

The late 90’s and early 2000’s kind of did away with that. There weren’t as many franchises and there definitely wasn’t the same amount of merchandising as before. It was a dark time (but produced some of the best thrillers and indie flicks.) Now we’re all old and cynical and we have forgotten where we’ve come from. Mufasa would be disappointed in all of us.  An invigoration into our childhood loves have been started. New adaptations of obscurities we’ve long loved are finally seeing the light.  Why wouldn’t you give it a chance? Why wouldn’t you embrace it? This, right now, is what we loved as kids. They weren’t anymore genuine or righteous as they are now. Companies created these franchise empires to make money off of our never-ending desires to obtain more stuff. That’s what they’re doing now, so we might as well enjoy it with the same amount of love as before.

Open your minds the way you did when you were 8. The world will seem a little brighter that way.Suicide-Squad-movie-poster-3-e1469110045944

Everyone IS NOT a critic


We are also not filmmakers, editors, directors, screen writers, actors, or what have you. This is something we should all keep in mind and is an overall good rule for life. You have your opinions, and they’re unique. Often times, there is a huge chance that your experiences can enrich someone’s life. That no longer remains true when you disparage someone or something.  When your only critique is an insult, that’s not a critique. It’s just as easy to say, “hey, this wasn’t for me. I didn’t enjoy it because of XYZ.” None of that is tearing down or preventing others from making their own judgments.

To be a little more blunt, there’s also a good chance that when you review a game, movie, album, your opinion isn’t going to matter unless you’re being paid for it (see above.) I didn’t pull the random hate quotes off Twitter or Facebook, because those aren’t published reviews paying someone’s bills. Those posts can be equated to your old high school friend’s new baby pictures or your uncle’s misunderstanding of social media. Those opinions are lost in the void of voices. While you want yours to be heard, it’s not going to matter without some sustenance to back it up.  Saying that goes against the “we are all special” motto, but we are not all professional critics. Until then, people are going to be more concerned with what professionals say or what the biggest fans think.

Stop comparing apples to oranges


I’m sure you’ve heard this phrase before. If not, it means two dissimilar objects shouldn’t be compared. Specifically, I’m talking about the fans constantly comparing the DC movies to the Marvel movies.  I understand that’s difficult to do, but please hear me out.  The two companies have been compared since their beginnings and will continue to be compared until their demise.  Has that ever made anyone better off, though?  What do we ultimately get from that but disappointment? It was fun when it was “Who would win in a fight, A or B?” but it has grown beyond that as a way to insult the films, specifically the DC ones.

As a mainly Marvel girl, I’ve been on board with them from the beginning (and I’m not talking the MCU beginning, I’m talking as far back as Blade.) I loved them and I watched them all the time, but I’ve never thought they’ve created perfect, untouchable films. If I had the chance, I’d redo every single X-Men movie from head to toe.  I want them to continue making movies because I’ve loved what they have created and want to see where they’re going. For those exact same reasons, I want the same for DC.

DC has arguably the best, most prolific pop culture characters in their grasp and have produced multiple iterations of these characters both in the cinematic and written form. Seeing them in any form should be considered bona fide proof that there are millions out there that love these things as much as you.  In no way do I want the two companies to mimic each other. The worlds should be different. They are not the same in written form and they should not be the same in cinematic form either.

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Keep an open mind

If you want to hate something, so badly that you openly ridicule it before it’s even available, you’re probably going to hate it.  The same thing is true for the opposite. Keeping an open mind isn’t easy but it’s worth it. You’re able to see a product for what it really is, and in the case of Suicide Squad that would be a decent movie which was a lot of fun. It is not without faults, it is not a perfect film by any means, but it did its job. It got people interested in the characters. Everyone I’ve talked to wants to know more about the characters, whether or not they liked the movie.

So now what?

I don’t know. I just want to enjoy things without abuse. I want everyone to do that. I want the nerdrage to subside. I want to stop seeing “Anyone who likes X is stupid” posts. It’s not edgy. It’s not blue. It’s not even a little funny. It’s discouraging. I want the world to know that I want to see content adaptations and universe building, and I’m not alone. I want these fandoms to grow and thrive and create new fans.  I hope you do too.

We’re Being Bad Fans

MCU Ranking – Where Does Civil War Land?

It’s become a running tradition to rank the films in the Marvel Cinematic Universe with us. We began with Avengers: Age of Ultron, continued with Ant-Man, and now we’re adding Captain America: Civil War to that list. We’ve had some people agree and disagree with us, but have stuck by our rankings. The release of Civil War has dominated the box office and have left fans mixed (you can check out our Civil War review here) and now the time has come for it to take its place among our ranked films.

If you missed our list prior to Civil War, here it is (you can see the full article here):

12. Iron Man 2
11. Incredible Hulk
10. Iron Man 3
9. Thor: The Dark World
8. Captain America: The First Avenger
7. Thor
6. Avengers: Age of Ultron
5. Ant-Man
4. Iron Man
3. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
2. Guardians of the Galaxy
1. Avengers

MCU Ranking – A Grid Daily Civil War

Captain America: Civil War Cap v Iron Man

This was an incredibly difficult choice that none of us really wanted to make. Talk to a Grid Daily contributor and their ranking will be different. The consensus,though? Captain America: Civil War nudges out everything to become the number 1 MCU film to date.  Before I go on, let me tell you just how split we are on this, but majority rules.

The movie captured the essence of the Civil War storyline in the comics: these superheroes are a powder keg, or as Hulk so eloquently put it, a time bomb.  You can’t have 10 people with extreme powers and personalities and emotions running that high without creating irresponsible and destructive results. The addition of Civil War to the MCU was an inevitability. These characters, by no means, should always get along. The truth in the film is where it succeeds.

Along with the story line, the movie did its side characters very well. Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, Vision, and Black Panther shined. Spider-Man and Ant-Man were incredible spectacles adding to the visual empowerment of the film. Falcon and War Machine were the perfect right hand men, portraying loyal friends to the men they cared about, never wavering their allegiances.

The difficulty of the film lies in Captain America and Iron Man. It’s difficult to see our favorite heroes be so blinded by their own perspectives. To quote a friend, “Captain America did the wrong thing for the right reason and Iron Man did the right thing for the wrong reason.” It’s painful to watch your heroes fall, which is where the Grid Daily group splits.Captain America: Civil War Banner

Overall ranking: 13 awesome fight scenes you didn’t see coming

So here is our updated list:

13. Iron Man 2
12. Incredible Hulk
11. Iron Man 3
10. Thor: The Dark World
9. Captain America: The First Avenger
8. Thor
7. Avengers: Age of Ultron
6. Ant-Man
5. Iron Man
4. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
3. Guardians of the Galaxy
2. The Avengers
1. Captain America: Civil War

How do you feel about our list? Where would you rank Civil War? Special thanks to our friend John Holloway from Worst Comic Podcast Ever for the awesome quote.

MCU Ranking – Where Does Civil War Land?

SH S1E21: Civil War Review

Marvel’s massive superhero showdown, Captain America: Civil War, hit theaters last weekend, so this week we sit down to talk about the story, characters, motivations, special effects, expectations, and the upcoming films including Doctor Strange and Infinity War. It’s important to note that this episode will contain tons of heavy spoilers for the film, so if you have not seen it yet, you might want to hold off until you do.

We also announce the winner of our Black Panther Wal-Mart Exclusive Funko POP Vinyl! Congratulations to Twitch username pugbite. We’ll be sure to have more giveaways in the future!

Civil War Review Podcast Credits

Hosts
Rachel Stewart
Ryan Couture

Special Guest
Robert McCullagh

Executive Producer
Derreck Mayer

Editor
Derreck Mayer

Music
Michael Wallace (Flying Killer Robots)

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SH S1E21: Civil War Review

SH S1E20: Daredevil Season 2

This week, we break down the Netflix Original Series Marvel’s Daredevil season 2. Joining us this week is special guest Noah of Noah Smith Images. There’s plenty of spoilers in this one, so if you haven’t watched the second season of Daredevil yet, you’ll want to hold off on this episode.

We also provide the details on how you can have a chance to win a Wal-Mart exclusive Black Panther Captain America: Civil War Funko POP Vinyl! You’ll have to listen in to find out how to win!

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Join us next week when we will be reviewing Captain America: Civil War and giving away the exclusive Black Panther POP!

Daredevil Season 2 Podcast Credits

Hosts
Derreck Mayer
Rachel Stewart
Ryan Couture

Special Guest
Noah Smith

Executive Producer
Derreck Mayer

Editor
Derreck Mayer

Music
Michael Wallace (Flying Killer Robots)

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SH S1E20: Daredevil Season 2

Captain America: Civil War – A Spoiler Free Review

I have been looking forward to Captain America: Civil War since it was announced in 2014.  It stands as my favorite comic book story line in the last 20 years.  Needless to say, a lot was riding on this for me.  And overall, I wasn’t disappointed. The problem was I wasn’t over elated. I didn’t give it applause after and I didn’t leave that theater eager to see it again.  I was genuinely concerned, though, for the well-being of my favorite characters in comic book history.  Before I delve into it anymore, I’ll break down the good and the bad for you.

 

The Good

Every action sequence is incredibly on point.  It is obvious that each character has their own unique fighting style because each person gets their time to shine, more or less, which hasn’t always been the case of Marvel ensemble movies in the past. While I won’t go into any specific details, Winter Soldier, Ant-Man, and Scarlet Witch do not disappoint.

The women of Captain America: Civil War are not forgotten. It’s been a very long road of asking for more Black Widow to actually seeing her at her best, and this is it. She’s strong, educated, sassy, and a true friend to her fellow Avengers.  Wanda was also given an emotionally driven story arc, which was a huge part of the heart of the film (although, weirdly, no mention of her dead brother.)

That being said, the men don’t let down either. Sam Wilson’s increased character brought a definition of a true friend to the picture.  While Captain America is fighting for Bucky the entire time, he does miss out on some of the loyalty of Falcon.  He was honestly one of the highlights. The first appearance of Black Panther was, honestly, my favorite part of the film. He wasn’t treated as a throw away addition to the team, but given his own motivation as well as taking care of his origin story in the first hour so that the official Black Panther film can be a continuation of the character already.Captain America: Civil War Fiight

Lastly, the acknowledgment of the missing Hulk and Thor was superbly well done. It’s not a giant focus, but it’s just impressive how clever it was.

 

The Bad (yes, there was some bad; deal with it)

Sadly, Spider-Man was not my favorite.  It was painfully obvious he was a last minute addition that they actually had to squeeze into the lineups and action scenes.  He only talked to a few characters! I’m not saying the CGI to render him wasn’t impressive, but I really would have liked to see him more planned out and not such an afterthought. I know what you’re going to say, they do what they can with the licensing they can. And I’m aware of this, but his introduction to the world could have been done a bit better; I know it.  That being said, Tom Holland will be a great Spider-Man.

The overall tone of the film was just sad. There was some great jokes, and Marvel avoided the gritty tone that takes over so many films today, but it was a legitimately depressing film. I don’t know what I was expecting with Civil War, but it wasn’t this. I was anxious for death in every scene. I was surprised by some of the brutality by these characters.  I didn’t know where it was going, and I was truly scared. I had never felt like that in a Marvel film before.Captain America: Civil War Cap v Iron Man

Lastly, Iron Man and Captain America were easily mishandled. Choose Team Cap or Team Iron Man; it doesn’t matter. Both tread the line of good and selfish. Despite what others say, neither is a true hero. They get in their own way. They’re blinded by their own arguments that, to use a phrase used in the film, catastrophe easily ensues. Now that’s expected in a good war story, and flaws in everyone are important, but we’ve held these guys to such high standards before, I don’t see why we have to give them a pass now. I’m hoping that future films can redeem both Avengers for me.

I’ve seen a lot of people give this film the highest possible rating they can, and I find that difficult to accept because of what Marvel has done before. It’s important to still be critical of what is produced so we can continue to appreciate the amazing. We’ve been so spoiled by Marvel in the past that it’s easy to forget films like Iron Man 2. Civil War is good, still one of the better Marvel films. It is not, however, without flaws. That being said, I will go see it again and I am so looking forward to Dr. Strange.

Rating Saucers 4.5 out of 5

 

 

I give Captain America: Civil War 4 UFOs out of 5.

The film officially releases in North America on May 6th, 2016.

Captain America: Civil War – A Spoiler Free Review

Team Cap or Team Iron-Man

Recently I was privy to observe a very clever conversation arguing the true depth to what it means to be Team Cap (#TeamCap) or Team Iron Man (TeamIronMan).   Joining in was yours truly, King of The Grid Derreck, the best Black Panther cosplayer Brent Simpson, resident Ghostbuster Ryan, and our knowledgeable nerd Nikki. The conversation took place over multiple hours through a Facebook chat among friends. Some of the conversation has been edited to remove tangents, typos, colloquialisms. Overall, it was an exciting conversation to take part it and I’d like you to be apart of that too.

 

Captain America: Civil War Team Cap and Team Iron Man

Derreck: So why is everyone on Cap’s side? Seriously though, is everyone on Cap’s for personality reasons and now what they are actually doing/standing for?

Brent: I generally feel that Cap is doing the morally right thing. Even if it is unpopular.

Derreck: You don’t think people like this need to have some kind of checks and balances system? Especially after all that destruction?

Nikki: The world has gone to shit and these bamfs are saving most of us. Collateral damage is better than obliteration.

Derreck: I don’t think Iron Man’s side is: let’s all go home.

Ryan: Nope. How are you gonna check and balance a God and a big green radiation monster?

Derreck: He agrees with accountability.  Ryan, so it’s difficult, it shouldn’t be done? No accountability because Hulk? That’s some lame logic.

Ryan: The government doesn’t need their hand in everything. Look what happened when SHIELD was active. They were a government branch the Avengers were supposed to report to. They got infiltrated and caused all the Winter Soldier shit. Just because it’s the government doesn’t mean it’s any more of an infallible entity than the Avengers as a team.

Derreck: Hence the checks and balances. The same problems could arise within the Avengers. So the Hulkf takes out a city block and everyone should just look the other way because accountability “might” bring problems?

Rae: I don’t believe choosing to protect civilians means they have to become employees of any such government. What happens if the UN is corrupted?

Brent: I think internal checks and balances are different than tacit government sanction. Especially as there is no world governing body.

Nikki: The Avengers need to police themselves.

Ryan: Exactly.

Derreck: I don’t think we know that’s what’s happening. The trailer doesn’t say they are employees of the US military. As far as the UN goes, what if the Avengers are corrupted? And police themselves? That hasn’t worked so far, has it?

Rae: And,if you want to hold them accountable for their destruction you can literally rebuild.

Nikki: They’ve certainly made an effort.

Ryan: If the Avengers are corrupted, having the government involved won’t help anything.

Derreck: I like how the Avengers, a continuously growing group that includes criminals can police itself but the UN can’t.

Brent: If Hulk goes crazy, Hulkbuster and Thor can take him on. If the Security Council decides to clear the way for Hydra, what’s the plan.

Derreck: It’s just like our military today. They don’t have to listen to the President. If the UN becomes corrupt, then the Avengers do something about it. But to claim they can “police themselves” is just not realistic.

Nikki: This movie is coming out at a peak political time. Some people have lost faith in the government, others want to fix it, others think it’s fine as is. We’re just protecting our feelings onto the movie..

Brent: But the moment the Avengers take action, they are terrorists.

Derreck: Brent, I disagree. If our President gives an order that is not constitutional and the military does not obey, that is not a terrorist avct by the military.

Brent: Not obeying an order is not the same as taking an action.

Derreck: Under that logic, it doesn’t matter if the Accords** are signed or not because any corrupt military could just brand the Avengers as terrorists.

Rae: Non corrupt governments have. That’s why they’re there.

Derreck: It’s simple. There are two options: sign the Accords, show the world that you want to make it a better place and protect it. This has the chance to become a problem if the UN (or whatever agency) is taken over. Second option: Don’t sign and you’re automatically a terrorist because you see yourself as above the law and outside rule.

Rae: And that’s the WHOLE plot of the movie.

Derreck: If the UN becomes corrupt, the Avengers have literally the same options whether they’ve signed or not.

Brent: Pretty much.

Derreck: Hence, sign the damn Accords and IF the UN becomes corrupt, deal with it. It’s not like Hulk loses his powers or something if they sign.

Brent: A zero sum argument doesn’t help either argument though.

Derreck: Cap makes it personal and goes after Bucky, who is a terrorist. It’s not a zero sum. One has the possibility of ending badly, the other absolutely will.

Brent: I think it’s an absolute either way. Hydra is still out there and operating. Allowing them oversight of the Avengers means they will be pawns of Hydra. Remaining an independent peace keeping organization means the chance of that is zero.

Derreck: But that’s based on the claim that it is impossible for Hydra to infiltrate a member of the Avengers. That’s not a fair claim. Ant-man was a criminal and Scarlet Witch was a bad guy. Who’s to say Hydra can’t get involved? Add Bucky to the list as a terrorist, programmed or not.

Brent: But then we are back to self policing. If they sign and they are infiltrated, they can do nothing until sanctioned. Especially because Hydra controls the team. If they do not, they are capable of taking action against that individual.

Derreck: That’s just red tape. If Hulk wants to smash, he’ll smash. The Avengers need to be responsible for ensuring Hydra doesn’t take control, yes. But on the flip side, why should they get to dictate what classifies as acceptable destruction and loss of life? Because they have powers or suits?

Brent: I don’t follow the logic that they are able to classify anything. Independent organization doesn’t mean they aren’t required to answer for their actions or explain themselves.

Derreck: But who are they answering to at that point? Is this the whole point of the Accords, accountability? I feel like Iron Man’s whole point is that they should answer to some group. And right now, they don’t. They operate using his money and his technology but on US soil.

Brent: Answer to the government where the loss of life and destruction of property took place. We have international law. You don’t have to be a part of the UN to be tried for a crime or called into a tribunal.

Derreck: So, what the trailer leaves unanswered is, has that happened? Or have they been protected from all of that? It’s not like they can bring Bruce Banner to trial. Or Vision. If they have had to answer to the local governments, then it’s a different conversation because the Accords don’t do much at that point and the scene with the videos seem out of place. It’s a super similar question to what Superman has to answer to after the destruction of Metropolis but at least we know he ends up in court. Should Scarlet Witch be protected after she helped Ultron? And what about Bucky? Does he get a pass because he’s Cap’s old buddy?

Brent: He ends up in a congressional hearing, but it’s a fair point. Bucky is such a unique criminal case to me. You have his initial disappearance, which could be construed as kidnapping. Which makes his later actions justifiable as he was under duress, in addition to the psychological trauma he suffered in his conditioning process.

Rae: Should everyone in the MCU who has been tortured and brainwashed immediately demonized without rehabilitation?

Brent: I can’t answer to that point. There are a lot of issues with his case for a direct answer.

Derreck: I don’t disagree with that but what Cap does to get him is illegal. He is operating outside of the law. The Avengers don’t get to be the judges. I’m not demonizing anyone. I’m simply saying if the UN can be so easily corrupted, why can’t the Avengers when it’s actually happened to some of the members? I don’t fault Cap on a personal level but his actions are still illegal.

Brent: Which brings us back to moral vs. legal.

Derreck: Looking at just the existing MCU before Civil War: Hawkeye was brainwashed, Scarlet Witch helped Ultron, Ant-Man was a criminal, and Bucky was a terrorist. That’s not good odds. The issue isn’t about whether or not we understand Cap’s personal feelings, it’s about whether or not the Avengers should operate within international law. I understand Cap’s dilemma and I feel for him but that does not justify acting outside of the law. A law that was, at the time, not a covert Hydra corruption situation.

Brent: Which is very gray. Extradition and detainment varies by country.

Derreck: Agreed. It’s complicated which is exactly why Cap doesn’t get to act as Judge Dredd here without serious reprecussions. Even in the trailer, Cap says you can’t always save everyone. Maybe Bucky is one of those people the Avengers can’t save.

Brent: Which I’m sure he’s willing to face.

Derreck: Does it suck? Yes. Is it sad? Absolutely. But it doesn’t erase the rest of the world the Avengers have to operate in.

Brent: Can we just appreciate how much more nuanced this Civil War is?

Derreck: Oh, absolutely. This is definitely not a punch/smash/bad guy down movie.

Brent: As an independent organization, I think they will be called to ask for their actions. However, I can’t agree that they need to be directly responsible to one organization doesn’t cover everywhere. Strike responsible. Sub accountable. Cap’s “issue” is that he will look at this as a soldier. He will accomplish  his mission, then turn himself in for a court martial. He can explain himself the and accept whatever punishment is proper. As an outsider looking in, his character and morals mean that he will do what is good and right. Even if it isn’t legal. Guns pointed at civilians 24/7 was legal after all.

**In reference to the Sokovia Accords, the fictional documented contract that the Avengers are being asked to sign in the upcoming film.

So what did you think? Did any of this change your mind? Whose team are you on: Team Cap? Team Iron Man? Let us know!

Team Cap or Team Iron-Man

Grid Talk: 08 – Power Puff Girls Return

Grid Talk is back in an all new format! Each week, I’ll be your host, bringing you some of the larger entertainment stories from the week plus what’s been going on around The Grid Daily including the latest I Ship It and Screen Heroes. This week? I talk about the return of the Power Puff Girls to Cartoon Network, Amazon possibly bringing back The Tick, which Star Wars: The Force Awakens actor is the front-runner for the new Tomb Raider reboot, and the casting of Commissioner Gordon in Justice League: Part 1.

Listen on to learn the details plus see what’s new on The Grid Daily.

Are you excited for the return of the Power Puff Girls? What do you think about the Tomb Raider casting rumors? Comment with your thoughts and don’t forget to drop us a review on iTunes!

Power Puff Girls Return Podcast Credits

Host, Executive Producer, and Editor
Derreck Mayer

Music
Michael Wallace (Flying Killer Robots)

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https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/grid-talk-sci-fi-frontiers/id1057992963?mt=2

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SH S1E11: ‘What If’ Iron Man Died?

In our first installment of our new “What If” Screen Heroes segment, we explore the many different stories we’d come across if Iron Man (Tony Stark) died at the end of Marvel’s Avengers. How would Avengers: Age of Ultron be affected? Would other heroes be featured more prominently with Iron Man no longer in the limelight? What about Civil War? These questions and more are answered as we pick apart the MCU (Marvel Cinematic Universe) with this one creative change. We also go on a few tangents and rants. Always good times. Check out what we have to say and then give us your opinion in the comments below.

If you enjoyed the segment, shoot us some ‘What If’ scenarios you’d like us to tackle! Remember, we cover more than just comic book films and series. Anything featuring heroes on TV, in film, or video games is fair game.

‘What If’ Iron Man Died Podcast Credits

Hosts
Rae Stewart
Ryan Couture

Special Guest
Ian Turner

Executive Producer
Derreck Mayer

Editor
Derreck Mayer

Music
Michael Wallace (Flying Killer Robots)

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https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/screen-heroes-grid-dailys/id1071922623

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SH S1E6: Infinity War 67

After taking a week off due to snowstorms, Screen Heroes returns to discuss what we are all wondering… who will be in Marvel’s Infinity War films set to close out Phase 3 of the MCU? The Russo brothers are responsible for directing not just Captain America: Civil War but also both parts of Infinity War. In an interview, they threw the number 67 out, as the number of characters they are currently working with. Now, they did clarify and say they just threw out a random and generic number but hey, let’s have some fun! Join us as we try to come up with 67 Marvel canon characters that Marvel Studios owns the rights to who could show up in the massive ensemble films!

Once you’ve listened to our list, comment or reach out to use with anyone we missed or who would make your list!

Don’t forget to subscribe on iTunes at screen-heroes.com and leave us a review!

Infinity War 67 Podcast Credits

Hosts
Derreck Mayer
Rae Stewart
Ryan Couture

Executive Producer
Derreck Mayer

Editor
Derreck Mayer

Music
Michael Wallace (Flying Killer Robots)

iTunes Link
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/screen-heroes-grid-dailys/id1071922623

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SH S1E6: Infinity War 67

SH S1E1 – MCU: The Good with the Bad

Welcome to the first episode of Screen Heroes, a new superhero themed podcast series from The Grid: A Sci-Fi Frontier. Screen Heroes will cover everything we see on the big and small screen dealing with superheroes. That means the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU), the DC Comics Extended Universe (DCEU), and anything else production companies throw at us.

The premiere of Screen Heroes is being dual published on Grid Talk’s feed, so everyone who listens in to our original series will also be able to listen to our first episode of Screen Heroes. While we are not on iTunes yet, we will be soon!

In our first episode, we’ll kick things off by discussing the pros and cons of the MCU. What is good about the massive connected universe? What are the pitfalls of such a far reaching group of franchises?

After listening, contact us letting us know your thoughts on the MCU. What do you like most about it? What do you dislike about it? You can reach us on Twitter, Facebook, email, or you can comment on the article on our website.

We’ve got a lot in store, so listen in, stay tuned, and thanks for joining us for Screen Heroes.

UPDATED 01/07/2016: Add iTunes link in the credits. Please subscribe!

MCU Podcast Credits

Hosts
Derreck Mayer
Rae Stewart
Ryan Couture

Executive Producer and Editor
Derreck Mayer

Music
Michael Wallace (Flying Killer Robots)

iTunes Link
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/screen-heroes-grid-dailys/id1071922623

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@GridTalkTweets

Email
contact@thegridscififrontier.com

SH S1E1 – MCU: The Good with the Bad